I'm sorry for writing in English.
I'm researching my grandfather's family tree and I found much information in the census records. But there are some notes in them that I cannot read and I was wondering if anyone could help.
They are for the Hansen family in Koikla in the Karja kogudus of Saaramaa.
Here are the links:
1816 Census - Family B, the note beside Johann Ludwig:
http://www.ra.ee/dgs/browser.php?web=sa ... ca925b4b74
1826 Census - Family 1 - note for the 5 family members:
http://www.ra.ee/dgs/browser.php?web=sa ... 304e7b1d61
1850 Census - family 1 - note beside all family members:
http://www.ra.ee/dgs/browser.php?web=sa ... a34a89704d
1858 Census - family 53 - note beside Johann's sons:
http://www.ra.ee/dgs/browser.php?web=sa ... ea0a624af9
Thank you !
Peter
Help reading census notes
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you find a:
Soul revision lists were compiled according to parishes, manors, villages and families and contain concentrated data about the whole family. Each family, more precisely each family name had its own number. In the revision lists, the following information can be found: names of family members, farm servants, maids and cottagers, their social status and age (which is often rounded). The revision lists contain also data of the previous revision and remarks about the changes that had taken place between the revisions. Relations between family members have also often been recorded there.
On the present-day territory of Estonia, eight soul revisions were carried out: 1781/82, 1795, 1811 (only men), 1816, 1826 (a local intermediate revision only in Livonia) 1833/34, 1850, 1857/58. In the case of the Estonian guberniya, there are the books of the given family names from 1835, as well. In the Livonian guberniya, the surnames were recorded for the first time already in the revision of 1826.
Look here then you fond what you need:
http://www.eha.ee/saaga/kogust.php front-right is the link In English
the nomers in pictures is nomer how old they are right is thet time whet that Soul revision lists was made left table year is how old he was last Soul revision lists
Soul revision lists were compiled according to parishes, manors, villages and families and contain concentrated data about the whole family. Each family, more precisely each family name had its own number. In the revision lists, the following information can be found: names of family members, farm servants, maids and cottagers, their social status and age (which is often rounded). The revision lists contain also data of the previous revision and remarks about the changes that had taken place between the revisions. Relations between family members have also often been recorded there.
On the present-day territory of Estonia, eight soul revisions were carried out: 1781/82, 1795, 1811 (only men), 1816, 1826 (a local intermediate revision only in Livonia) 1833/34, 1850, 1857/58. In the case of the Estonian guberniya, there are the books of the given family names from 1835, as well. In the Livonian guberniya, the surnames were recorded for the first time already in the revision of 1826.
Look here then you fond what you need:
http://www.eha.ee/saaga/kogust.php front-right is the link In English
the nomers in pictures is nomer how old they are right is thet time whet that Soul revision lists was made left table year is how old he was last Soul revision lists
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I am not very strong in German, but some suggestions:
1816 census: Johann Ludwig Hans son has gone to live another place (manor), which is hard to read out "unter Wurrez???" (probably Würzen or Võrsna in Püha parish)
1826 census: it is written that those people went to live in another place, but in the same manor under Revison Liste section D. See shot page 6.
1850 census: at the time of previous revision (1834) they were under "arbeiter Oclad", which means they were in Handworkers list (not peasants). There are sub-sections in each Census according to the social standing, i.e. nobles, town citizens, handworkers, people working in manor house (servants and officials separately), industry workers (if there was any), fishermen, free people and serfs (peasants) etc.
1858 census: they went in 1855 to live in private Gute Sall, ie. in Kaali manor in Püha kogudus.
1816 census: Johann Ludwig Hans son has gone to live another place (manor), which is hard to read out "unter Wurrez???" (probably Würzen or Võrsna in Püha parish)
1826 census: it is written that those people went to live in another place, but in the same manor under Revison Liste section D. See shot page 6.
1850 census: at the time of previous revision (1834) they were under "arbeiter Oclad", which means they were in Handworkers list (not peasants). There are sub-sections in each Census according to the social standing, i.e. nobles, town citizens, handworkers, people working in manor house (servants and officials separately), industry workers (if there was any), fishermen, free people and serfs (peasants) etc.
1858 census: they went in 1855 to live in private Gute Sall, ie. in Kaali manor in Püha kogudus.
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